Empowering Tips For Women’s Wellness

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Do you feel like your voice gets lost when it comes to your or your family’s health?

You know yourself and your family best but it’s not always easy to know how to advocate for ourselves and our loved ones.

That’s why I’m so excited to share this empowering episode of the Soul Care Mom Podcast with you where I chat with Karin Ashley a Women’s Health Nurse Practitioner all about navigating women’s wellness and how to advocate for yourself and your family when it comes to health and wellness.

If you’re ready to find clarity and confidence when it comes to your health and wellness as a woman this episode is for you.

Catherine Wilde

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The Truth About Women’s Wellness

Catherine Wilde

Do you feel like your voice gets lost when it comes to your or your family’s health? You know yourself and your family best, but it’s not always easy to know how to advocate for ourselves and our loved ones.

That’s why I’m so excited to share this empowering episode of the Soulcare Mom podcast with you, where I chat with Karin Ashley, a woman’s health nurse practitioner, all about navigating women’s wellness.

And how to advocate for yourself and your family when it comes to health and wellness. If you’re ready to find clarity and confidence when it comes to your health and wellness as a woman, this episode is for you.

Catherine Wilde

Hi, Karen. Thank you so much for joining me today.

Karin Ashley

Thank you for having me.

Catherine Wilde

I’m excited to talk with you. I love that you are passionate about women’s health and wellness. Would you start by giving us a glimpse of your journey and what led you to become a woman’s health coach and advocate for women’s wellness?

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Karin Ashley

Yes, absolutely. So I started my career as a nurse at a children’s hospital, and I was attending my school for a master’s degree while I was working as a nurse. And my master’s degree is in women’s health, and I’m a women’s health nurse practitioner, and I’m board certified.

And after I completed my degree, I started working as a nurse while looking for a job as a nurse practitioner and just really fell in love with the mother child dyad. I was really treating the child in those situations. But really, my favorite people to work with were the babies and new Mamas. And it wasn’t always in the best of circumstances.

They were in the hospital. Their new babies had come in with one thing or another. But they were brand new moms. And I wasn’t a mom yet, but I just loved working with them because they came in in a very vulnerable and needy situation. And I just loved loving on them and helping them get everything they needed to get through that really rough time. And it gave me a whole new perspective on that.

Once I started having my own children, a new respect for that situation and just a new perspective. I saw throughout my training as a nurse practitioner and then in the hospital as well, caring for children, so many gaps in the care and not necessarily because of the staff or the facility, but just the system in general, just a lot of gaps in the education of our practitioners and in the care that our moms and babies were getting.

So over the whole time that I’ve been out of Nurse Practitioner School, I’ve been getting more education in integrative medicine and functional medicine and just creative ways to go about problem solving health issues for women and their children and supporting them in all of their wellness aspirations. So now I’m a mom of six. I just had my sixth baby and he’s just about two months old and just love welcoming children into our home and caring for Mamas in the really hard work that they do.

Catherine Wilde

Oh, my gosh. So you’ve experienced this from all the different things. And I love that you were drawn to helping the new moms and really loving on them because that’s a really hard transition to make. And it’s also a very overwhelming time because we want the best for our children and we get put on the back burner and not think about ourselves so much and really take care of ourselves in the best way.

So I love that you looked at it, that you’re able to have that impact on both the mom and the baby. And yeah, and you said that there are so many caring health care providers out there, but for us to be able to… We know ourselves best, right?

And so to be able to say what we need, just like in our relationships, our spouse can’t read our mind. And so being able to advocate for ourselves is so important. So I love that we’re going to dive into that. So would you like to start there? So it’s empowering to know how to navigate our health journey and how to best ask questions and get the support that we need. Can you share some guidance on how women can begin to advocate for themselves and their families in the healthcare setting?

Karin Ashley

Absolutely. So this is another thing that I gained from both experience as a patient and as my children were patients and also advocating for myself and then being the practitioner in that relationship. So I have been with my children and with myself in a situation where I’m just going to paint a picture here.

And it’s a picture I’ve been through numerous times, and I’m assuming a lot of your audience has at least on one occasion, gone into a doctor’s office or an urgent care or a hospital and you have a problem. And it could be anything from a minor thing like an ear infection or you’re giving birth and you’re walking into the hospital to give birth.

And you have questions, you have anxieties, you have concerns and you go in and you are rushed, you are told what they’re going to do instead of asked, you’re not asked what you need. They just start rattling off, This is what we’re going to do.

This is what we’re going to do. Nobody asks you what you want, what you need, or you feel like you’re rushed through, like you’re just on a conveyor belt being pushed through a system and you aren’t able to ask your questions, you might just leave empty handed, or you might leave with a plan that you’re not completely on board with.

Empowering Choices for Women’s Health And Wellness

Karin Ashley

You might leave just completely confused, like, what actually happened? What did anybody say? And I didn’t love that. Going through my clinicals, I was paired with nurse practitioners, and we would go and see their patients together in clinic, and we would see people. They would spend time with them and talk to them. And some of them were just wonderful. And they would do a really great job. And if you find a practitioner like that, you’ve struck gold.

But with some of them, I felt like we went in there and we listened for a few minutes and we gave them a prescription and we left and that I could see it in their eyes that that’s not what they came for, that they still had questions, that they were confused about what they just heard and they just accepted it and left. And I know that they probably went home and told someone, I don’t know what happened, or I went and she just said this and just gave me a script and I don’t want to take it.

So I’ve been on the other end of that, too, where I’ve taken a child in with and I’ve had a concern, talked to the doctor and the doctor, I had a doctor tell me, you need to get off the Internet. There’s nothing wrong with him. Which was so… It almost made me cry in the office. They didn’t know I was a health care worker, and so I don’t… Maybe it would have been different if they’d known that. But I, as a patient, just felt like, this is not right.

We need to be able to walk in there and express our concerns, be listened to and really heard, and leave with a plan that we are 100 % on board with, or be able to leave and come back with questions if we have them. So that’s really my goal when I work with my clients now. But I really like to talk to anybody about how to do that in the medical setting. We walk in and we feel like these people are the authority.

The doctor knows best, the nurse knows best. I have to do what they say because they’re the expert. And to an extent, they are an expert in their field. That’s why you’re going to them. But they’re not the expert on you. Maybe they just met you, especially if you’re going to see a new doctor, new specialist, or they’ve only known you for 15 minutes at a time, once a year.

Karin Ashley

They don’t really know you as well as you do. And same goes for your children. You know them best and love them the most. So you’re the one that has to take care of them at the end of the day and has to implement the plan that they give you.

So I like to say that those people are like expert witnesses in a trial. You have them come for a reason. You listen to their advice. You can ask them questions, but ultimately you’re the one that gets to decide if that plan is for you or not. So I like to tell people to make sure that they are trusting their provider. Word of mouth is probably the best way to find a provider. But to ask around, make sure…

And then you can see these people, and if it’s not a good fit, it’s not like you have to stay with that person. A lot of people don’t know that. I was referred to this doctor, I have to see them. You can choose someone else. If you go there or you even talk to their office and can tell right away this is not a good fit, you don’t have to.

Be Your Own Advocate

Karin Ashley

You can keep asking around, look around and find someone else in the network that you trust, because that is a big help in that whole process of accepting a plan that you trust if you trust your provider. So getting a provider you trust, making sure you write down all of your questions and not feeling bad about asking them.

Sometimes you feel like you’re a bit of a burden, like you’re being too difficult or pushy if you ask too many questions or question too many things they say, but you’re not. That’s just advocating for yourself. So make sure you write down all your questions. Make sure you can ask them because sometimes you get through half your list and they’ve got one hand on the doorknob, they’re walking out, you can keep asking your questions.

You pay for a visit, so you can ask all your questions and make sure you write down the answers. And I even have people read back the answers to their provider and say, Let me make sure I heard that correctly, what you said. And that gives a whole other level of understanding when you are able to repeat it back to them to make sure you have it right.

Karin Ashley

I recommend people bring someone with them to the appointment. There’s studies on how much you retain when you go to an appointment, and it’s about 10 %. And that’s even for people like me who… I went to an appointment yesterday and I remember about 10 % of what she told me. I don’t need to remember every single thing she told me and be able to repeat it back. But I do need to remember the important parts and be able to understand my plans. And also that person you bring with you can be an advocate.

And this is especially important in the birth realm when you’re in labor, when you’re about to be induced or you’re in active labor, you’re in another mind place and you’re not able to always articulate what you need and what you want. And that is a place where a lot of the times you’re told, we’re going to do this, we’re going to do this. Having someone to advocate for you that knows your desires and your plan can really step up and say, no, she really wanted to do this, or she really wanted to ask about this before that happens.

Advocating For Yourself & Surrounding Yourself With Support

Karin Ashley

That’s especially important to have someone with you that can be extra set of ears and someone that can help advocate for you. And I always just want to make sure people know that they are never being a bother or a bad person, a bad girl for being difficult for asking questions or for saying no, or for delaying, for saying, you know what? I need time to think about that plan. I need to go home and talk to my partner or my family about that before I make a decision.

Catherine Wilde

Thank you for sharing all that. So much of it resonated. I mean, I’ve experienced what you’re talking about. And with my birth, with my first child, I remember just going to my OBgyn. And I had that same experience. I had a couple of questions, and I like to write things down because like you said, I don’t always remember.

So I had my little notebook with me, and I think she was afraid that I had a lot of questions. She did have one hand on the door and it was going to be a Christmas-time baby. And so I wasn’t sure she was going to be there.

There were so many things that weren’t sitting well with me. And I talked to a friend about it, and she had already had a few children. And so she was like, Well, why don’t you go talk to somebody else? And it was mind blowing to me that I could go do that. I was like, How can this person open it? And it seems so obvious now to me.

But at first it was like, oh, wow, I can do that. And you’re saying you know yourself best and finding the right fit for you is an important thing. And yeah. And being able to say the information back is such a great tip because we homeschool and that’s like a way that I know that my kids have reached mastery in something and we can move on to the next thing is if they can teach it back to me. So I love all of those tips.

Karin Ashley

We homeschool too. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Catherine Wilde

You have a lot on your hands. That’s amazing. Okay, so we’ve talked about advocating for ourselves. What about the mom that’s put herself on the back burner for a while? What advice would you share with her if she’s feeling overwhelmed with where to start in just her own health and wellness journey?

Karin Ashley

Sure. Yeah. This topic has a special place in my heart because that was me. My husband is a physician, and during his residency, we were in a town where we didn’t have any family. We did have great friends, but we didn’t have any family there. It was my first baby, and I just wasn’t really confident in what I was doing. And I also didn’t have a lot of resources around besides my really wonderful friends. But I definitely put myself on the back burner. We had feeding issues, we had sleep issues, and all of that just compounds and makes…

It’s a perfect storm for postpartum anxiety, postpartum depression. When you’re not having the energy to feed yourself properly as a whole other layer onto your risk for postpartum anxiety and depression when you’re not being nourished. And so that happened again with my second because he was still in residency at the time.

And I just didn’t know how to advocate for myself either. I didn’t know how to communicate those needs to anybody because I grew up being very independent, very self reliant. I thought I was going to get a trophy for doing it all by myself and doing it well.

Karin Ashley

But after six babies, I know now that is a bunch of nonsense. I now know to ask for help because people want to give it. Overwhelmingly, if my friends from our residency are hearing me talk right now, they would say, You should have asked me for help. But I didn’t know how to ask. And I thought, I can do this by myself. People do this by themselves all the time. But the truth is, you don’t need to and you shouldn’t.

Our society is now set up where we are away from our family. We are more separated from our family than we have ever been in the history of human beings. Even in the past 100 years, 200 years, you wouldn’t survive if you were this far away from your family because you relied on each other for support and for food and for work.

We were all tight and we were in villages and tight communities, and we don’t have that anymore. Moms haven’t been doing this by themselves for very long because it’s not normal. We’ve always been supported by a tight family and community society. So knowing that this is not normal for you to be isolated is the first step.

Karin Ashley

And then the second step would be to start making those connections and asking for help, starting with your own home, communicating if you have a partner at home, your husband, or maybe you have a mom with you or someone helping you raise this child, communicate your needs to them. And you are not weak for doing that. You are advocating for yourself and for your baby. And it’s not selfish at all. So I didn’t know that I could communicate those things. I thought, my husband’s so busy, I can’t add one more thing to his plate.

But he wanted to help, and he didn’t know how. And he didn’t want to sit and watch me go deeper and deeper into anxiety and depression. He wanted to do something. I feel like men really want to fix things often, and he wanted to fix it. And so I know now how to communicate those needs to say, you know what, I need some time to do this, or I’m not sleeping well at all. The baby’s awake a lot at night. I need you to take a shift from this time to this time. Can you do that for me?

Karin Ashley

And almost always they say yes. You can ask a friend to do that. Or we’ve adopted a couple of grandparents around, so they don’t have their grandchildren nearby. And they love helping. They love being around the kids. And it’s just as much of benefit for them as it is for my kids and myself. A lot of people just really want to bless other Mamas.

And time is one way that a lot of people can contribute. If they don’t like cooking, postpartum meals, or they don’t have a lot of money to give, time is something that you can usually squeeze in. I can take an hour shift or two hour shift, but I’m never ashamed to ask for help anymore. And I know some people still have that block that they need to get past. So start something small. Ask, Hey, can you take my baby for 15 minutes? Can I take a shower? Or, Can we meet up here? And, Can I just talk to you? I need like, if you’re extraverted or something, you just need someone to talk to. Can we meet up? Small things that don’t seem like you’re imposing. But that’s one tip is to communicate and then start going out of your circles a little further.

Karin Ashley

Once you know that the people in your home are supportive of you and helping you get what you need, go one level out to your extended family or to your friends, the next layer out and then keep going further into your community.

Maybe it’s a support group or another mom group or something. You don’t have to get out there right away when you’re feeling anxious and depressed, just slightly enlarging your circle more and more each time to get support. And for me, also helping other moms is really nourishing for me. And so being able to get out to that community level and just support other moms and feel like I’m also contributing while benefiting from those relationships is important.

Catherine Wilde

I love all of those. I think this is really common for us as women is not wanting to be a burden, whether it’s at the doctor’s office or asking for help and just knowing that it’s okay. It’s okay to ask for that help. So on my journey, I did have someone for my first daughters for all three. But I had a doula and a midwife. So I had that person advocating for me.

And that’s such a really nice thing to have someone who understands what you’re going through. And you can even have a postpartum doula as someone to help you because we are away from family. And it’s amazing to have support, especially during those first few months where you’re just trying to figure everything out.

Karin Ashley

Yes. I feel like postpartum doulas are taking the place of what I was talking about with in our culture several hundred years back, what an auntie would do. Your grandma would be there. Everyone would be so close, physical walking distance from you. That would be an aunt that would come over, cousin that would come over and cook for you and take care of your kids. And I love that postpartum doulas are a thing now because then they can take the place of what your family would be doing to support you.

And they just do whatever you need them to do, whether it’s watch older kids for a little bit or make you some food that didn’t involve just microwaving something. They can make you something that’s really nutritious and make sure that you are getting your questions answered and that can help you talk through some of your concerns about feeding and just voicing concerns about growth and just reassure you on a lot of things that otherwise would just snowball in your brain and turn into big concerns.

Catherine Wilde

Right. Yeah. It’s giving you someone that has the experience and is creating that connection as well with another adult when you’re alone and isolated. So I love that. Whether you’re away from your family or maybe you just don’t have a very supportive system around you. You can create a family around you. I love all of those tips.

Catherine Wilde

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Catherine Wilde

Okay, so we talked about nourishing meals a little bit. Can you share with us the correlation you’ve seen between nourishing ourselves and burnout? What are some tips and practical ways for moms to nourish themselves and get out of that burnout?

Karin Ashley

Right. So nutrition is huge in making your body feel safe, basically. And so when you’re low on reserves, you don’t have the nutrients that your cells need, your body feels unsafe. And you will, if you get depleted in certain nutrients, develop anxiety and depression. And you might think, Okay, now I just have this new diagnosis. I am depressed now. I’m going to be on medicine for the rest of my life. When really, I’m not saying this is true in every single case, but for a lot of times with postpartum, you’re depleted in nutrients.

The pregnancy is a huge drain on nutrients. Your body just needs a lot of macro and micro nutrients to grow your baby and keep you alive at the same time. And then the birth is a huge calorie burn and a huge, just not drain, but it just takes a lot of resources to birth the baby and then to start feeding a baby, to produce milk, to have enough energy to produce milk and get into the milk, the nutrients that the baby needs.

And so really repleting our body with those nutrients that were lost from those processes and also building up going forward to optimize your own health and then get you in a good place for your next pregnancy.

Karin Ashley

If that’s down the road a couple of years, you don’t want to be depleted when you go to get pregnant again. It’ll just lead to a very tired, very potentially complicated pregnancy and then delivery and then just continue down the road of depletion, which is the symptoms are very similar to just anxiety and general depression.

So especially important in those nutrients are B vitamins. So those are best gotten from food. But for a mom who’s just like, I don’t know where to start, I need nourishment now. I’m so depleted. I tell people to stay on their prenatal vitamin for at least three to four months, postpartum. Some people like, okay, done with the pregnancy, can ditch the prenatal vitamin.

That is really important to keep taking for that fourth trimester. And that will take a little bit of the load off of you making sure you have all these meals that you need, especially if you don’t have people bringing you meals. But I also emphasize high protein diet. It’s high protein not in the sense of like Keto or paleo, but it’s really protein is needed for energy for the entire day and just to build up all of the processes in your body.

Karin Ashley

So I tell people to get about 80 to 100 grams of protein a day as new moms. And I can tell even with my sixth baby that I do this, you feel like you need to eat something immediately. And it’s usually a quick carb. It’s something sugary or something quick that you can just grab and eat like a muffin or bread or whatever.

And I have been eating a lot of bread since it’s on my counter and I just keep hacking away at it all day. But those are not the fuel that’s going to last much longer than two hours. So I tell my postpartum moms to get about 80 to 100 grams of protein a day and to fill the rest of their plate with something bright and full of fiber.

So vegetables and fruits that are brightly colored. As many colors as you can get on the plate is great. The color equals phytonutrients, which are… Some people talk about antioxidants. That’s the same idea. So filling your plate, half your plate with something bright and fresh is great. Having protein in there and then carbs. So it doesn’t have to be a science.

Karin Ashley

You don’t need to go get on a specific diet. Don’t need to stress out about how many grams of this I’m getting, how many micro grams of this I’m getting. If you get that protein goal and half of your plate is brightly colored fruits and veggies with fiber in it, you’re doing great. I love that.

Catherine Wilde

Keep it simple. Yeah, keep it.

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Wellness For Women & Nourishing Your Body

Karin Ashley

Simple because you don’t have time. Nobody has time. You have a specific diet that you need to calculate things or input things into an app. I mean, maybe if you’re sitting there breastfeeding anyways and you want to input your food and make sure you’re getting all the things, then that’s great. But I don’t have a lot of brain space for that postpartum.

Catherine Wilde

Yeah, I love those tips. The correlation between what we eat and our mental health is so fascinating and sometimes we separate those two things. We don’t know the correlation.

Karin Ashley

It’s absolutely correlated. I think it’s because you don’t see an automatic change. You don’t see an immediate change. When you eat something, yeah, I feel okay. I’m not hungry anymore, but you don’t get this like, oh, now I suddenly have mental clarity and I’m not depressed and I feel happy. It’s not an immediate response.

And so I don’t think people make that correlation a lot. But consistency is key. And you will notice results, they won’t be immediate, but you will notice that next day, I’m not as bloated anymore. A couple of days down the road, oh, I feel like I wasn’t as dead tired when I woke up today.

When you are really nourishing your body and meeting your body’s needs for calories and for protein and for those B vitamins and fiber that I talked about, your body feels safe, your body feels rested. Your cells are getting the energy that they need to function and do all the things that your body needs to do, which will result in your symptoms improving.

Catherine Wilde

Yeah, that makes so much sense. Thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom with us and your journey with us. One thing I like to ask is, we go through so many experiences and things. If you could go back and share a piece of wisdom with your younger self, what would you tell her?

Karin Ashley

I think when I was in school learning about women’s health, I really enjoyed what I was learning. I enjoyed the connection with my coworkers. I enjoyed the connection with my patients and clients. And I knew something was missing, but I didn’t know what it was.

And so I wish I could go back and tell my young student self that you don’t have to follow these same rules that everyone else, that everyone is outlining, like the way we’ve always done things. You don’t have to do things the way they’ve always been done because that’s not always what works. And I wish I could also say, this is the path you need to go down, and it’s okay for you to be a little bit different.

People in the integrative and functional medicine space, even if they are licensed practitioners, still get flak from people in the conventional system because they’re doing it differently. And that’s new and that’s not researched enough. But all the interventions that we do are research based, and it’s okay to be different. It’s okay.

A lot of people need a practitioner that’s willing to think out of the box and think of creative solutions or to just ask more questions and maybe try some things that they haven’t done before.

Karin Ashley

It’s scary for conventional practitioners to go out and do those things because of the regulations that they have from their professional organizations, like the American Academy of Pediatrics or like the American Medical Association.

They put out the American College of Obstetrics and gynecology, and they set out these guidelines and they feel like they have to follow them exactly. Otherwise, they’re going to be sued. And it’s really at a detriment to their patience when they aren’t getting what they need because they don’t fit in the mold. They have a problem that doesn’t fit that solution. So I wish I could tell young Karin it’s okay to be different.

And this is an okay path to go down to look at other options, different ways to practice. I don’t have to work in a traditional office. I work remotely. I talk to people on the phone and I order their labs that they can test at home. And so it allows me a whole lot more time to talk to them. Before, I would have 15 minutes with somebody, and even then, we were overbooked, and I wouldn’t have time to talk to them. And now I have an hour or more.

Karin Ashley

When my first consultations with people, it takes… I book 60 to 90 minutes. So I’ve talked to people for an hour and a half before getting their whole story, talking about as many things as we need to, even if things that maybe they don’t think make sense. Here’s this weird thing that happened to me. And then my symptoms started after that.

They don’t seem related, but maybe they are. And let’s talk about it. And I have people making connections all the time. Once we set up a timeline of when did all these things happen, what was going on in your life.

People are making new connections all the time and having aha moment. And it’s like, oh, my gosh, those symptoms did start after I had this super stressful life event. And so I love making those connections with people and being able to spend the time really getting to the root of their problem and getting them a plan that they are on board with. That gives them hope.

Catherine Wilde

Oh, I love that. And I am so grateful for practitioners like you that are open to trying new things and paving the way and helping us to lean into our intuition and guide us through that. That’s so beautiful. Thank you.

Karin Ashley

Yeah. Women’s intuition is very much ignored in the conventional system, and it should not be. I place a huge value on that information that women give me where they say, I feel that these things are related, or I feel that this is the cause, or I really feel aligned with this plan over this one, I say go for it. I like giving people options and making sure people are aligned with their plan because that is how it’s going to get implemented. If you don’t feel like this plan is for you, you’re not going to do it, or you’re going to do it and get bitter about it or something. Right.

Catherine Wilde

Yeah, that’s amazing. Thank you so much for sharing all of this. Can you let us know where we can find you online?

Karin Ashley

Sure. So I Have a website. It’s a very amateur website, but it gets the job done. It’s KarinAshleyNP.com. I’m on Instagram with the same thing, KarinAshleyNP. And then I also, for your listeners, if you go to Karinashleynp.com/soulcaremom, I have a special page on there that will connect you to a booking for my calendar. I specifically do all women’s health, but my passion is fertility and preconception.

That time just before having a baby. So I love working with couples, mom and dad together, the hopeful parents together to work on problem solving and helping them get the next step in their plan. So I have a page on there to book free 15 minutes just to chat about where you are and maybe make a plan for going forward. It’s not a sales call. It’s nothing sleazy.

You don’t have to buy anything from me. I don’t have any affiliations with any companies or anything. So it’s just a chat to talk about where you’re at and what would be the most helpful thing to move forward in fertility specifically. But if you just have a health issue that you’re just concerned about that you’ve been shut down multiple times and you don’t know how to move forward in getting the care you need, we’ll just chat about it for 15 minutes and then make a little plan, like action steps moving forward. So that’s at KarinAshleyNP.com.

Catherine Wilde

Oh, I love that. Thank you so much for sharing that. I will share those links in the show notes so everyone can find you.

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